Wednesday, 17 November 2021
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We have posted KeyMouse Alpha & KeyMouse Track on the Site (As Beta) due to the fact that the firmware was re-written from the ground up (much better for future updates) and the software has many changes to write to the devices in a new format. Yes we know it's weird to have Alpha as Beta.

Before purchasing, please read the notes at the top of the product page describing current known issues. The current known issues are software/firmware related and are in process of being solved. We use these new devices as our primary input devices, and they are working well for us so far.

We're also working in the background on how we will allow users to 3D print their own devices with access to the 3D models to make customizations. We'll clarify how this will work after we button up the software/firmware changes.
2 weeks ago
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#3083
Thanks!
2 months ago
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#3062
Thanks for the reply.
2 months ago
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#3058
Hi Dimitri. We may be out of stock for a few weeks as we are waiting on a shipment of filament. We only have a few PCBs for Track left so after that, we will be waiting on a new shipment of PCBs.
2 months ago
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#3055
Hi again. Thanks for the reply. I now notice that the Track is also out of stock. Is there any ETA for that as well?
2 months ago
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#3054
Hi Dimitri. We ran out of Main PCBs for Alpha and are waiting on a new shipment. We will be out of stock for at least a month.
2 months ago
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#3053
Hello!

It appears that the Alpha is now unavailable. Is there perhaps a timeline for when it will be available again?

Thanks in advance!
7 months ago
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#2716
Hello,

when will there be Key Modules available for the Beta version?

Greetings.

The Key Modules are available to purchase now. Keep in mind, these Key Modules require a punch-down tool to install and we don't have these in stock yet. As soon as we have the punch-down tools in stock, we will put them up on the site.

Is there an ETA on products coming out of beta?

I want to try the Alpha, but I’m waiting for the beta message to come down as I have a working Track 125 from 2019 I’m still using.

We currently don't have an ETA on coming out of beta. We are in beta because we are ramping up production and fixing bugs in the software and firmware.
7 months ago
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#2678
Is there an ETA on products coming out of beta?

I want to try the Alpha, but I’m waiting for the beta message to come down as I have a working Track 125 from 2019 I’m still using.
8 months ago
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#2620
Hello,

when will there be Key Modules available for the Beta version?

Greetings.
8 months ago
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#2548
@Julianne
Super excited for a keymouse track after waiting so long! Is there an estimate on when a hardware-only kit will be available?

We are still getting the hardware-only kit together but we don't have an ETA yet. We still need to make punch down tools available and rewrite assembly instructions.
8 months ago
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#2547
@Anton Fedorov
Oh my, i'm soo much want one!

Is there plans to have properly-molded version, or it'll be always 3D-printed? I'm a bit concerned regarding lifetime of the plastic..
Also, I really want to try one -- but you said it's better to wait. Wait for what? Is more HW changes expected (then wait is kind of reasonable) or only SW (and I'm fine to alpha-test, refirmware, connect them separately and do any magic necessary to unbrick it if something goes off) :)

The current plan is to stay 3D-printed. The KeyMouse 300 series is made out of ABS plastic so it should last pretty well. The only issue we have with using plastic is if you are taking the device apart and putting it back together multiple times and possibly stripping out the screws. We don't have any hardware changes expected unless we run into problems with the beta. Currently, the only changes expected near term are software and firmware changes to make the device rock solid and add missing features.
8 months ago
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#2546
Is it possible to get a key mouse track wireless without backlit keys?
Given the ability to disable backlight, there at least once was an option to make wired devices function over bluetooth. See this third party forum post.
8 months ago
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#2545
@Bill Motric
they added backlight keys?

Yes, we have added backlight to the new KeyMouse 300 series.
Is it possible to get a key mouse track wireless without backlit keys?

It is not possible to get a KeyMouse Track wireless as we have removed all Bluetooth capabilities due to all of the problems we were experiencing with connecting to the devices. In case you were still wondering, it is possible to just turn off backlight on the new KeyMouse 300 series.
8 months ago
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#2544
@Pitri We have just added the one hand purchase options into the store.

Hello,

is the new KeyMouse version compatible with the Cherry Key Modules listed under Old Components on the Purchase page?

Thank you

Technically the new Main PCB 3.0 is compatible with the Cherry Key Modules listed under Old Components if you are using the old daisy chain cables. For the new KeyMouse 300 series devices, we have switched to a different wire connector (punch down) on the Cherry Key Modules. We will have the new Cherry Key Modules (Punch down) that we use in the KeyMouse 300 series listed on the website soon.
8 months ago
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#2542
Dustin - I still have 2x mice in addition to my pair of KeyMouse Tracks ... I almost never touch the mice. If you need really fine-grained support on the mouse, just use the little palm buttons on the left hand to drop the DPI on the right Track trackball. (I used to use these, but just realized that I haven't had to change DPI in at least a year now!)
Great advice. If my pain levels merited, and if the functionality you were referring to were currently available in production, I would certainly follow it. Without the pain to justify it, I think that precision would come at the cost of efficiency. Also, to be clear regarding my second if, that feature is currently unavailable on the new revision pending a future firmware update:
5. Mouse DPI commands not supported yet for speeding up and slowing down mouse cursor while keys are held down. Mouse freeze does work.
8 months ago
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#2539
Dustin - I still have 2x mice in addition to my pair of KeyMouse Tracks ... I almost never touch the mice. If you need really fine-grained support on the mouse, just use the little palm buttons on the left hand to drop the DPI on the right Track trackball. (I used to use these, but just realized that I haven't had to change DPI in at least a year now!)
8 months ago
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#2538
Oh my, i'm soo much want one!

Is there plans to have properly-molded version, or it'll be always 3D-printed? I'm a bit concerned regarding lifetime of the plastic..
Also, I really want to try one -- but you said it's better to wait. Wait for what? Is more HW changes expected (then wait is kind of reasonable) or only SW (and I'm fine to alpha-test, refirmware, connect them separately and do any magic necessary to unbrick it if something goes off) :)
8 months ago
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#2535
Is it possible to get a key mouse track wireless without backlit keys?
8 months ago
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#2534
they added backlight keys?
8 months ago
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#2533
Here I can preach for the Track version. Admittedly it took me a year or so to get skills for the trackball (never used one before), but the payoff is huge! less space required; can work on the desk, can work in the bed; potentially less problems with wrist; no issue with the amount of buttons you can put on the device (I actually want to remove a couple of rows :) )
I briefly considered a track because of the additional buttons, but I've been using a Contour RollerMouse 2 for enough years to wear it out, and I'm still shaky on it when compared to a traditional mouse. For that reason, my opinion is that getting a KeyMouse Track without first being confident you can function consistently and efficiently on a thumb-controlled mouse solution seems like a risky proposition. On the flip-side of that coin, I can totally see where having a KeyMouse track for your chair/couch/bed could make sense in spite of any lost precision involved (lost precision by the human, I'm sure the hardware and interface are fine).
Here I can preach for the Track version. Admittedly it took me a year or so to get skills for the trackball (never used one before), but the payoff is huge! less space required; can work on the desk, can work in the bed; potentially less problems with wrist; no issue with the amount of buttons you can put on the device (I actually want to remove a couple of rows :) )

The thing is, I want to move my arms around a lot. Sitting in the same position all day is very unhealthy.
8 months ago
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#2531
Hello,

is the new KeyMouse version compatible with the Cherry Key Modules listed under Old Components on the Purchase page?

Thank you
8 months ago
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#2530
Super excited for a keymouse track after waiting so long! Is there an estimate on when a hardware-only kit will be available?
8 months ago
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#2529
Congratulations!

Is it possible to order just one side of the KeyMouse?
8 months ago
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#2528
Here I can preach for the Track version. Admittedly it took me a year or so to get skills for the trackball (never used one before), but the payoff is huge! less space required; can work on the desk, can work in the bed; potentially less problems with wrist; no issue with the amount of buttons you can put on the device (I actually want to remove a couple of rows :) )
8 months ago
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#2523
@Heber Allred I think the Asteroid would be a great thing for programming. The number row and all the special chars that reside there can be a nightmare to type. Some shell programs don't accept the numblock + for example and only want the number row + sign (for whatever reason). While those are few, typing numbers is something we all do all the time. Having to hold down a function key is a bit annoying for that, as is having to remember where all the keys are. This made it pretty hard to use the keymouse at the start and took a long time to get into muscle memory.

I also think that people who mind bulky mouses won't ever buy a keymouse in the first place. I have the original alpha without the xlarge/large options, and it's pretty tiny for my hand :D

But to end on a more positive note: I love the product, but I really want a number row too :)
8 months ago
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#2522
@Brett Also, KeyMouse Comet will come back to life, too. Just juggling lots of stuff internally, but I think Comet would be really useful for a lot of people. Honestly, we would like to set up to allow other users to design their own keyboard & mouse inventions using our platform. This is where I really see the potential for KeyMouse to impact the most people. The platform we have created is what we wish existed when we started KeyMouse. There are so many unique devices that can be created just with different shaped 3D models, using the same internal components. We're planning to provide documentation and videos for how users can customize the 3D models and/or create their own devices.
8 months ago
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#2521
@Brett Yes, this is the plan. We need to make some adjustments to it first based on our own internal feedback from using it, but we plan to allow users to download and customize the 3D models to fit their own hand or preferences. I think users customizing a mouse perfectly for their needs will be very useful for lots of games, CAD programs, etc. For my daily workflow, I don't use a mouse, but if I do a RTS game or something mouse intense for a long period (especially if it doesn't have the the need to move my right hand back to the keyboard at all for the whole game) then I will use a mouse.
Will the comfy mouse project come back to life once the keymouse 300 is released?
8 months ago
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#2517
@meredrica We have a design of KeyMouse Alpha with the number row (we call it KeyMouse Asteroid), but we haven't released it due to the size of the device making it a bit bulky. We've tested both Alpha & Astroid, and we feel Alpha is better for what we want to stand behind as a product. Even Alpha being more bulky than a mouse is somewhat of an inconvenience, but a good tradeoff for many applications to have your fingers on the keys + mouse at the same time. The newer 300 series devices are a few ounces lighter, though due to smaller PCB and no batteries (plus we have ceramic feet now which glide better) so I'm sure it will be better than when we last tested. One way or another we will make sure KeyMouse Asteroid is available in the future either as a product, or as a 3D print your own. For now, we're focused on making Alpha & Track solid with the new firmware/software/PCB.

@alon Sorry, the new Mouse Sensor is not compatible with the KeyMouse Main PCB 1.4 or earlier. The Mouse Sensor 3.0 must be used with Main PCB 3.0T. KeyMouse Main PCB 3.0T is smaller than Main PCB 1.4, so it would need an adapter for mounting. We don't have officially supported upgrade options available for 100 series KeyMouse Devices, but we will release some DIY options. As long as you're a bit handy, and are willing to dremel your housing a little, it should work.
9 months ago
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#2516
@Greenmachine Me too. Placed an order for a track. Can't wait to get it.
9 months ago
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#2515
So pumped!!!
9 months ago
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#2513
Excellent!
Heber,
Will the new mouse sensor module work with the old pcb? And if so, would the settings of the dpi be according to the dpi value, or might it be more like an ordinal scale, such that the maximal dpi value I could set in the old GUI (3200 I think), would set the maximal dpi setting in the new mouse sensor model (now 12000 from what I understand)?
I’ll definitely want the PCBs as well, but I do that when the macros feature will be available… :)
9 months ago
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#2512
Nice!

Are you planning to release the alpha with a number row at some point? I read there were plans for that.

Thanks for the update.
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